Leachie beginner questions- housing, locale differences, etc.

[genevieve]

Hi all,

I recognize some of the names over here from the Crested forum! Hopefully you guys can help me out a little. I have an offer of a PINE ISLE Leachie in trade for some of this years **** Cresteds.

I am wondering:

What are the personality differences between the locales/ subspecies?
Is one locale/ subspecies more desirable than another?
What are the size differences between them?
Housing recommendations (****, adult) including cage fixtures, etc.
Coloration- I am guessing not as much variation as some of the other Rhacs, but is anything more "high end" than another pattern?

And just any other info that might be of practical use. I re- read some of the Rhac books Leachie chapter today, but there isn't much on the Pine Isles (unless school has fried me so entirely that I just missed it).

Thanks in advance for your input,

Genevieve

[Geckospot]

Im just curious... What are the **** for? I assume you're talking about babies or hatchlings. Why not just say the word?

[tcr03]

there is a work filter. it wont let you say b a b y. see ****

[genevieve]

Huh, why is that on there? I have been wondering about it myself.

Anyways, any Leachie info for me?

Genevieve

[Allen Repashy]

Genevieve,

The gecko that is offered to you is probably an Island E. ..... There are very few if ANY actual Pine island leachies around. This has just become the generic term for all leachianus henkeli. The nicest and most common you will find is the IslandE/Bayonase type that are indistinguishable from each other. Nu Ana and Nu Ami are obvioulsy different and bring a higher price....

On the **** issue..... I posted this several places already..... I have set up a filter to block out profanity, and there is no word more dirty than ****food ! LOL.... I set it up so that the word b a b y is blocked, and not the whole ****food word so people could figure out what was being said. This also blocks it out when you are talking about a newborn gecko..... **** is a poor term for a young gecko anyway, so I suggest you use the words....hatchling, neonate, or juvenile .. much more professional than the word ****!

Allen

[genevieve]

Allen,

Thank you for the info. I was reading on the relative dearth of actual Pine Isles being offered in the Rhac book earlier. Just wasn't sure if anything had changed since it was published. Didn't realize that it was now part of the vernacular as well.

Sorry I missed the other posts on the b a b y blocking. Very clever! ****food is certainly the dirtiest word I know . I am not certain if it is a hatchling or a neonate (I am not really clear on the exact diving line between the two stages either, even having just consulted THE BOOK). What exactly would you use as the age cutoffs for the various stages for the different Rhac species (esp. Leachies and ciliatus).

Genevieve

[Allen Repashy]

neonate = hatchling = < 4 weeks.... your choice!

Juvenile 1-6 months

Subadult 6-12 months

Adult > 12 months



Allen

[SGVreptiles]

i am getting a pine isle too...from bobby pruett....how do i know if its a true pine isle or not?when it gets here ill snap some pics and post them...

[bleeding_sarcasm]

good luck with the new leachie. on housing recommendations, i would say, lots of hides, use sturdy plants that wont break/be trampled under an adult leachies weight.a nice big cage, i wouldnt do a full screen cage tho because its alot harder to keep up the humidity. i find that my leachies do well with uvb and a basking, i have some pictures and explanation of my leachie set ups in the housing section, you should check it out.

[SGVreptiles]

ive already have the cage set up it is 3 ft tall 17in wide and about 18 in deep its a glass cage....i have aplant in there thats just about as tall as the cage its very strong...i have a bunch of big branches a couple of cork barks ....as for the substrate its a moss...not sure what type...but im sure he will love to hide under it..