size of breeding females

[Lance Portal Reptiles]

have been told that different bloodlines give different sizes....so what would be a good size/weight of 1st time breeders, books say 40g, that seems large??

[Misskiwi67]

I go by age as well as weight... If I can hold out until 35 grams I will, but if a female hits 2 years of age and is only 30 grams, I breed her and watch her weight closely. Some females have a short season, but they put weight on quickly once cooled.

[ominously]

Originally Posted by Lance Portal Reptiles

have been told that different bloodlines give different sizes....so what would be a good size/weight of 1st time breeders, books say 40g, that seems large??

Age and weight are both factors to be considered when breeding to ensure that the female can a) produce good eggs, and b) maintain and lay said eggs surviving the stress of it. The book has a number that was set as an example. I believe the 35 gram year and a half to 2 year rule seems to be the accepted norm from what I remember reading. There are of course always exceptions (small growing animals, fast growing animals).

In the end though, why rush? There is no race to breed - why take the chance of putting your geckos through something they may not survive when all that you need is a bit more time possibly? Correct me if I'm wrong, but unless you're deliberately off season breeding the season won't start for a few more months...

Not to turn this into any other kind of argument, but it strikes me all the time when you post that you are pushing the boundaries for whatever reason into areas of this hobby that come across as questionable in your judgements and motives. That being said, far be it from me to actually interject and actually care why you are doing what you are - I just wanted to let you know that you seem to be building that kind of reputation...

Good luck on your projects just the same.

Mike

[Lance Portal Reptiles]

wow mike....i didnt know putting a female with a male garg. is "pushing the boundaries" i have a female close to size and wanted to put her with my group, i have never heard anyone get s&#t for this befor?

sounds like prejudice views of what im doing, why is it that someone comes on here to help and the other comes on only to give people the 3rd degree, i understand why you may not like some of my other projects...(i.e. hybrids), but asking a question about breeding size of a reptile, come on...you want reasons why i asked,

1. i have a female close to breeding size, not rushing just would like to add her to the group.
2. just got a large breeder cage for all of them
3. i didn't want to put her in too soon
4. wanted others breeding info

...should i go on some more for you???, just in case theres anything else questionable in my judgement for asking a question about breeding size and wanted to see what others are doing.....not know if i should say thanks or sorry with this one...lol

[ominously]

I have nothing against even your hybrids dude - true I am more for pure lines but like I maintain, if everything is well represented it doesn't matter to me. I answered your question better than anyone else in this thread if you read the pertinent part and don't take as much issue with the rest.

All I was getting at is that you seem to be constantly posting about mixing bloodlines, mixing species, and now your post comes up with "40 grams seems large."

Based on that and your previous posts I took it as a push forward too early - as I said, your reputation is building in that direction - you need to expect people to remember and respond to you based on these factors. Now that I look at the post again, I believe I actually made an error - I thought we were talking about cresteds, in which case I would say that 40 grams doesn't seem all that big to me for aurics - 35 grams is a standard crested weight.

No one is giving you anything for wanting to breed anything - just realize what you say is not what you imply all the time, particularly when you have a history of doing more than just "putting a female with a male garg."

As for some people coming on here just to help and others coming on just to give the 3rd degree though, I am only one of two in this thread that even responded - and it was helpful. I am though, also a person who will give both advice and inquiry - I like to know what kind of person I am dealing with at all times, and what type of person I am may potentially be helping do what in the future...

Take that how you will.

Like I said before:

Originally Posted by me

That being said, far be it from me to actually interject and actually care why you are doing what you are - I just wanted to let you know that you seem to be building that kind of reputation...

and I stand by it.

[Lance Portal Reptiles]

well thanks for your help, just think your jumping to false conclusions.... thats all. just seems like you give people the 3rd degree in other post i have read....i never said anything about crossing her to a different species, you should have just ask me if thats what i was doing...your inquiry made it seemed that there was something wrong it wanted to add a female gargoyle to the gargoyle group... i think we should just leave it at that, sorry for the missunderstanding man...