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Re: Entamoeba Fix!

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Thank you for providing a solution for this terrible disease. Supplied in these smaller quantities, the FIX will allow us all to provide a treatment for our animals.
Perhaps a link on the packaging to this forum's article on the disease would help educate the buyer on what they are facing.
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Re: Entamoeba Fix!

Good Idea Wally,

here is the link http://www.reptiles.repashy.com/entamoeba.htm

It is now available for my distributors to order, so it should be available in the next week or two.

I feed this freely to a breeding group of five or six geckos and they eat it up just fine... if one eats more than another, it is no big deal. The safe range of the drug is such that I made it so there is no way a gecko could eat enough of the food to get a toxic dose.

It might not taste as good, but they seem to eat it anyway... You can skip a feeding or two before you offer it to insure their appetite.... Also, geckos infected with Entamoeba are essentially starving to death because the bugs line the intestinal wall and prevent nutrient absorption.. so they actually are quite hungry and eat a lot when they are actually sick from it.....

Please note I have Syringe feeding protocol in the updated instructions that can be used to make sure they get the medicine if you have the time to dose all your geckos individually.

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Re: Entamoeba Fix!

Thanks. My biggest concern was that my geckos would get "overdosed", but once again you have shown me that I need to have more faith

This product will also come in very handy when quarantining new animals, so even for those people who have faith that their colony is "good" they can use this to make sure any new animal coming in doesn't bring it with them.

I just find it so amazing how you're able to meet customer concerns so quickly.
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Re: Entamoeba Fix!

Thanks droogie,

I am just trying to help make it easier for people of all levels to deal with or prevent a possible problem. The entamoeba can live happily in the intestine without shedding anything, so fecals can be perfectly clean until something goes wrong. I am sure there are geckos out there without it, but if anyone has bought a new gecko into their colony over the last few years, it could be a healthy ticking time bomb.

I seem to be the person that everyone sends emails to about the problem because of the article on the website and I have had everyone tell me that they haven't got any new geckos recently and their colony was in perfect health until recently...

I am not just trying to sell a new product here.... it will hardly be worth the time to mix only what is ordered. I am doing it because I see it as something that can save a lot of gecko lives.
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Re: Entamoeba Fix!

hey, i think this is a really awesome idea, and would be a great addition to me "gecko first aid kit"...

but i was wondering what the shelf life would be on this once it is opened? i have been told that the regular CGD lasts for a year (if you can make it last that long) so would this have the same shelf life? i guess i am wondering if you would need to buy a new batch each year, or if you could use what ever extra you had left over for the next year?
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Re: Entamoeba Fix!

Just a few questions. Will this also treat or reduce any other parasites in the gecko? What is its shelf life? How does it work or is there a feeding schedule for juvie cresteds or Rachs? Great idea!
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Re: Entamoeba Fix!

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I will be mixing it fresh to order from my distributors and they will keep minimal stock. The powder I use has good stability, but I would definitely not keep it for a year and use it again. Use it once and throw it away.. It is only going to be $13.99 for a four ounce container, so I can't understand anyone complaining that they can't afford to spend that on their geckos once a year or in the event they need to treat symptoms.

I have not done tests on shelf life, but as long as it is not hydrated, it should equal the life of the unopened food. The point is, you don't need to keep it around any longer than it takes to buy it and use it once it is open.

If you wanted to keep it around in a first aid kit of sorts, I would say keep it for a year and then discard. Think of it as a dollar a month insurance... Or just order it when you decide you need it instead of having it around....

i want to emphasize that there is no epidemic or panic right now that you need to treat your geckos immediately, or at all if you don't want to. There seems to be a thread on the subject on every forum because of my announcement, but don't panic LOL..... the sky isn't falling! My motivation for coming up with this was more than a few recent emails and threads, but my rational for doing it was more for use as a preventative treatment.

Some haters are questioning the use of the product and say it will prevent people from going to a vet, but I totally disagree.. Anyone who has lived on a farm will know that they treat nearly all farm animals 3-4 times a year for parasites and you would get severely criticized if you didn't. .. There is no evidence of resistance build up for Entamoeba that I have seen recorded.

There will always be the debate on treating preventatively , or treating symptoms. It is up to each individual to decide. I can only tell you my decision had done me well for the last six years. Make your own decision.. just make sure you weigh both sides, and don't just listen to those "conspiracy" theory posters who are sitting at their computers wearing their skull cap custom made out of aluminum foil LOL.

Steve.... search the drug on google and you will find out what it kills. It is used for anaerobic bacteria and protozoa of all kinds. Read the instructions I posted twice already for the feeding schedule LOL
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Re: Entamoeba Fix!

Any chance you'll ever consider a panacur treatment based Calcium PLus Dust? I realize implied consequences and such, but could it be done?
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Panacure would be better distributed the same way as the metronidazole in a complete diet that can be syringe fed. It would be REALLY hard to figure out how to put it in a dusting product and get the dosage right... especially when there is no way to really know how well it is sticking. The particle size would probably keep it from sticking very well at all, which would really complicate dosing.

Rhacodactylus do get nematodes like panacur, and I could easily make a product like the entamoeba fix.. or I could put them both in one product.... I might just offer this stuff up once a year because I don't expect to sell much of it really.

I haven't really thought this out much at all, just banged out this stuff because I have a bunch of people I am trying to help locally and off the boards here..... Right now, I am playing fireman, but I can look at the viability of either including panacur in this product or making another one.

There is probably a potential outside the rhac world for this stuff but I haven't thought about it yet.... Dosing imports or questionable store bought reptiles of all kind are candidates for a prophylactic treatment. Having an easy to use product that also provides the great amino acids, fats and vitamins in the diet might be pretty cool.. A nutritional boostlike this along with the medicine would be great for compromised specimens. Dunno.... As always, I depend on the feedback here on the forums to help me develop things and welcome the discussion.
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Re: Entamoeba Fix!

Allen, this seems to be one of the best things that can possibly be done for those of us who treat Crested Geckos, this is a horrible thing that I have been dealing with personally and have lost some geckos to, and to see a treatment like this come along that can help prevent and cure it and is accessible to just about everyone will definitely help save geckos lives and help hobbyists tremendously. Definitely a great new product.
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