river blue?

[Steveo25]

I Heard Through an associate that Some river blue G.T. leachies have hit the market. Does anyone know where and how Much? Im sure its a fable but I have to ask thanks.

[mike]

What exactly is a river blue G.T. Leachianus? I have never heard of that before, I know of GT's, but the River Blue thing is new to me......

[Steveo25]

They are a local specific leachie, River Blue is a protected reserve and no animals are allowed out. They are very different in apperance. I was waiting for this to happen I was just wondering when. Unfortunatly these animals were probably smuggled in but how do you think cresteds became available so quickly, it wasnt from a legally collected stock.

[KaveMan]

I sent you a PM

[Luc]

Cresteds didn't become available because they were smuggled(they are very difficult to find in nature) but because one female can easely produce 10 hatchlings in one season. What should a river blue animal look like and were on grand terre is river blue ? Did you ever see one?

[Prestondactylus]

I would also like to hear or see what they look like.

[Stickytoe]

Rich from Petacular Exotics had some available at the Sacramento Show. You may want to email him for details.


Nicole

[Prestondactylus]

Sticky Toe could you give us a desicription?

[Steveo25]

I should have guessed petacular would have something that rare. Thanks for the info stickytoe and kaveman. and luc, concerning the cresteds... I should have phrased it a little better i suppose. I was speaking of the original stocks to america. Not the fact that anyone with a barrons book can easily breed them. Im not here to argue, so yes luc... you are right, thanks for correcting me. As far as appearance, its mostly color that sets them apart. As soon as i can locate some i will post asap.

[gila-91]

I saw them at the Sacramento show as well. One (yearling?) CBB male and several well started CBB juveniles. All were very pale, I would imagine just from the stress of being at the show. I assume their color shows much better under normal conditions. You could see that there was some white pattern/spots. Unique, but nothing wildly different from the other localities available. You could tell they were different, but its very subtle (from what I saw). It was just very intriguing to see a new locality available.

[KaveMan]

I think River Blue's are supposed to be a Type A leachie. They're located in that specific part of the island, Blue River Provincial Park. Ask Allen to post some pics...I heard he just purchased quite a few.

[gila-91]

Blue River Provincial Park is at the south end of the main island, so it could be either Type A or B. That said, I believe Philippe is doing some re-thinking/reorganizing of the GT leachie Type arrangements based on new information he has received. If I understand correctly, he will be speaking about this at the NCG Symposium.

[Steveo25]

What new information has philippe received, if i may inquire. Word on the street is that they will be speaking on gargoyle geckos at the symposium. They might not be considered Rhacodactylus anymore.

[gila-91]

I really don't have any details other than to say that (at least in part) it has to do with seeing a broader array of specimens than before. Recent conversations I've had with Philippe have led me to believe his talk will be on leachianus, but I didn't ask that specific question. Unfortunately for me, I won't be able to make it to the symposium, so I will have to wait to hear from others on what comes out of it.

As far as the auriculatus thing goes, taxonomists frequently try to redefine things. Sometimes it's valid, sometimes not. It's not Philippe that is talking about the splitting of Rhacodactylus, but someone else.

[Steveo25]

Well I wish they would leave it alone no matter who is speaking. It would have to be quite a report to sway me. thanks

[gila-91]

Well I wish they would leave it alone no matter who is speaking. It would have to be quite a report to sway me. thanks

Splitting up the Rhacodactylus into different genera dosen't sit well with me either, but does it really matter from a hobbyist perspective? They are all amazing animals no matter what they are finally called. Keep in mind, these things need to be peer reviewed before they become official. We will just have to wait and see what comes out of the conference.

I thought I should also clarify my comment about what Philippe is doing with the GT types. I called it a reorganization of his original work, but a better term would be refinement.